Gobi March Blogs 2012

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Gobi March (2012) blog posts from Greg Donovan

15 June 2012 05:28 am (GMT+08:00) Beijing, Chongqing, Hong Kong, Urumqi

Happy birthday mate for yesterday from Matt and me. Hope you had a great day and you did something nice, and sorry we were not able to be there with you, but we look forward to celebrating with you when we get back.

Look forward to seeing you Tuesday.(do you want a dodgy "made in China" present?!)

Love Matt and Dad

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Posted On: 16 Jun 2012 05:17 am

Hey Dad and Matt, Thank you, I had a great day. It would have been good for you to be here. But what you are doing is the best birthday present I could imagine. Thanks Guys

15 June 2012 04:57 am (GMT+08:00) Beijing, Chongqing, Hong Kong, Urumqi

Firstly thanks for all your blog comments which I have read, it really helps to see the support we are getting, and has been a great help to Matt in getting through this week.

 

The long day is always the make or break of these types of events, so our team decided to approach the day with caution, and just keep moving forward towards the finish line. Our time was not important, as circumstances have prevented us from showing our true  potential results, but what has been achieved is so much more significant than a quick time. We have shown that as a team we can do it under difficult circumstances, and Matt and Roger have demonstrated courage and determination to push through for the team, whilst being sick ALL WEEK. On days 3 Matt was as sick as I have ever seen him, and at checkpoint 2 on that day it was as close to over as we could have come. What stirred in him, to get off the ground and carry on I do not know, but he  did. Especially knowing that even if that day could somehow be completed all he had to look forward to was the brutal day 4, and then the long day of 75km after that. At the end of day 3 wrapped shivering in a blanket in the medical tent, Matt deteriorated further and was at his lowest ebb. So to come back and complete 115k of very difficult terrain over the next 2 days was as close to a miracle as you could get. It reminds me of a saying “If you are going through hell, then just keep going”.

 

Day 5 was a long day for us, and we crossed the line in 12.16, and amazingly the very minute the sun set behind the mountains. Very symbolic of our whole race.

The day started with Rogers stomach in a bad way having been up to the loo 3 times during the night, and Matt still feeling quite ordinary. They both had to also go to the loo (no2) a couple of times on the course and Matt had some drugs at checkpoint 3 to help. To top things off his nose also started to bleed. Contrary to the course description, the first 36km was vey hard with 700m cumulative altitude gain, rocky territory, and big ravines to climb in and out of like billy goats.

At 40km we were rewarded with a long downhill, and we got into a good run, and we managed to run/walk the next 20km passing many. But at 60km Matt (and myself) were totally spent, sore and tired as we had run out of food at around 50km, and lack of energy and a bit of dehydration set in. So the last 15km were just a fast walk, eventually slowing as we neared the finish. We were too exhausted to celebrate too much, but just relieved to be finished, and after collecting our water headed straight to bed, with just a recoverite shake for dinner.

Its been an incredible week, all of the team have been amazing and strong, and the spirits and determination have been high. All in all, a difficult but inspiring experience for  our team. We are all missing home and I’m sure Matt (and myself) will have a break from training as we recover. We are currently placed 65th, which considering the week we have had  is still good, and we may even pick up a few places on the 15km sprint home tomorrow.

The 5 desert dream lives on for now, with our minds soon turning to Sahara at the end of October.

Not sure if I can blog again, but if not, keep your eyes out for the final leg results, and I’m sure there will be some good pics on the website.

Our cameraman James, has some fantastic footage and awesome photos, and once the film is compiled is will surely show a real life drama.

 

Now getting ready for Desert Ashes , Aussies vs Poms cricket this afternoon. I’m sure we will beat the poms!.

See you all back at home.

Cheers

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Posted On: 20 Jun 2012 04:48 am

Hi Greg and Matt,great news,you crossed the line,hope Matt is feeling alot better what a feat that was a big congrats to the team!!!!!!! lots of love Leonie,Dave,Steph and Rob.

Posted On: 18 Jun 2012 03:07 am

HI Greg, I'm a bit late on the comment. I jumped on the site a couple of times on the fly to see B2R's progress. Sounds like you guys have some seriously hard yards behind you now. That's the best place to have them - behind you! Please extend my congratulations to the rest of the team and to be cliche, when the going gets tough, the tough get going! Well Done!!!

Posted On: 16 Jun 2012 01:56 pm

Yes you & the team made it, with a great result under difficult circumstances, safe travels back to the land of oz. Moni & Ian

Posted On: 16 Jun 2012 11:20 am

Congratulations guys, an impressive effort from the whole team. An awesome result considering the circumstances. Look forward to seeing you when you get home. Travel safe 👍

Posted On: 16 Jun 2012 09:13 am

Impressive

Posted On: 16 Jun 2012 05:27 am

Great to hear you guys have crossed the line in the long stage not only crossed the line, but ended up with a pretty fantastic result. You guys are doing great, almost finished now. Can't wait for you to get back home.

13 June 2012 08:57 am (GMT+08:00) Beijing, Chongqing, Hong Kong, Urumqi

Firstly thanks for all those that have sent blog replys to Matt. He will draw much strength from them when he reads them tonight, as we rest and prepare for the long day.

It has been an amazing day. After I took matt from medical tent back to our tent last night, he had deteriorated further, and was not well, but managed to eat and then straight to sleep. The chances of him starting day 4 seemed slim. However when he woke he said ‘my stomach is still bad but im feeling better so think I will give it a crack’ after 2 dashes to the toilets, our packs were on and we headed to the start line,with a 400m altitude gain 3km climb to heavens gate, a huge natural archway the height of the empire state building. The views from up there were amazing. we needed to remove our backpacks and climb ladders to get up there. Of course having started, the strategy was just to manage our pace and do whatever we needed to finish, with our time not important. Todays course can only be described as brutal and after the first climb and then descent we did about a 16 km stint of endless huge up and down hills, which were very steep and very long and the downhills quite technical with large drop offs if you fell. The first 10km took 3 hours including 2 loo breaks for matt, and a dose of gastrostop, which seemed to help him. The course makes six Foot track look like a leisurely bushwalk. But today Matt was  a man on  a mission and was not going to let the hills stop him. The mood in the team was more upbeat today, and we just pushed on hour after hour, and eventually finished in 8hrs 45, which was a great mid pack result,which was very inspirational to the team, and makes me very proud of Matt. Everyone else in the team is all going well, so if Matt continues to improve we should have a reasonable long day of 75km tomorrow, and finish this thing off.

Myself I ran on 5 snakes today, and sports drink, as I am short on food and needed to preserve it for the long day. This effort would normally deserve 6 bacon and egg rolls, but that will have to wait.

Will blog again ,but wont be until the day after the long day, as we will be in late, all going well.

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Posted On: 15 Jun 2012 08:03 am

Hey Dad, Good to see another post. I am so proud of you to have got this far already. You and the team are doing a great job. Keep your head up and push through it. Hear again from you soon.

Posted On: 15 Jun 2012 07:29 am

Hi Greg, well.... team born to run have done it again, Congratulations to you all for such an awesome team effort, what an incredible trying time for you all. So very relieved & glad the long day is done & now you get the well deserved rest day. Team 5 V desert Nil. Fantastic & absolutly unbelievable! Rest up & take care, Lea :-)

Posted On: 15 Jun 2012 04:27 am

Hi darl. So good to speak wed night. Relief Matt's improving. Stage5 looks like it went well. Can't wait to have you home. So proud. Love

Posted On: 14 Jun 2012 10:52 pm

Hi Dad - glad you had a better stage 4 and that Matt's improved. I've just seen results from the long day... You did it! Practically at the finish now, not far to go at all! Hope you have enough food, enjoy the rest day, I bet Matt's looking forward to it - dont wear yourselves out playing cricket though! Such a fantastic team effort. Looking forward to you all coming home!

Posted On: 14 Jun 2012 11:35 am

What an effort! Your deetermination is inspiring and best wishes for tomorrow's run.

Posted On: 14 Jun 2012 11:32 am

Great to read the update it's good to know Matt is getting better. Hope stage 5 is going well and look forward to reading the next installment. Go team born to run!!!

Posted On: 14 Jun 2012 09:47 am

Love coming home to read your blogs every day and glad to hear Matt is feeling a little better. You guys are amazing and truly an inspiration. Only wish I had the guts and strength to do what you guys are doing. Keep a smile on your face and look forward to seeing you on your return. 😃

12 June 2012 05:55 am (GMT+08:00) Beijing, Chongqing, Hong Kong, Urumqi

Hi to all. It has been a very difficult and distressing day for the team. Matt woke thismorning with a fever and bad headache, and was unable to eat breakfast, and lucky to be walking. Neverthless he decided to start the day and see how things went. What transpired was nothing short of sheer courage by Matt who struggled badly just to move forward. To get to each checkpoint was amazing, and every checkpoint (except for the last) he was about to pull out, which would have been fine with me, as it was terrible to watch what he was going through.

At checkpoint 2 after 20km he was close to tears, and quite scared about the situation, but bravely decicded to proceed. I had to help push him up hills from behind, he could have stopped at any point, but had the occaisional slightly better spell which kept him going. It was just a slow trudge all day, much like the death march. At checkpoint 3 Matt had another rest before a long 9km walk up a neverending hill gaining over 500m of altitude.

The finish couldnt come soon enough and we crossed the line in about 8.15.. and effort from Matt much more impressive than a top 10 finish.

Matt is now sleeping in the medical tent, and we will asses the situation again in the morning. His temp is OK his hydration and salt levels are also OK, but he is just not well. Best place would be in bed not trudging 37km across difficult terrain. Tommorow is the hardest of the short days with endless 50metre hills, and is titled "stairway to heaven", but sounds much more like stairway to hell... and then the long day after that. If Matt does feel a bit better in the morning and decides to proceed it iwill just be a matter of survival and finishing. If he doesnt, there is no shame. The rest if the team is fine and pulling together to support Matt. Wiill repost tomorrow with an update. Please send messages of support to Matt, as he is unlikely to blog tonight.

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Posted On: 14 Jun 2012 07:57 am

Thinking of you Matt :)

Posted On: 13 Jun 2012 01:00 pm

Matt has always been the definition of a true Australian... I would never of doubt him through or imagined him being any other way. I hope he has a quick recovery and can finish the race for his sake and the cause. All the boys back home are proud of the team and especially Matt.

Posted On: 13 Jun 2012 11:39 am

Ohh guys- so well done- your courage and tenacity is amazing. hoping Matt is improving overnight and like you said no shame if cannot go on- he's like a soldier trooping to war. wishing safety and health for teh next days- our thoughts and love are with you all- Strenght and courage to you all. lol liane and baz

Posted On: 13 Jun 2012 11:35 am

All our thoughts and best wishes are with the whole team. You are all an inspiration to us all, keep doing your person al best and keep the prpose and end in sight.

Posted On: 13 Jun 2012 11:35 am

Such an inspiration Matt. Hope you are feeling better soon and good luck with the next stage. Our love and wishes to you and the rest of the team. I have also left a comment on the Born2run site.

Posted On: 13 Jun 2012 11:28 am

to paraphrase Scott. having lived, you will have a tale to tell of the hardihood, endurance, and courage of all your companions, which will stir the heart of every endurance athlete. This rough blog will tell the tale.

Posted On: 13 Jun 2012 11:09 am

Sounds as though Matty is doing it pretty tough, but the courage being shown is something to inspire and encourage the team. Hope you are feeling better in the morning Dono and are able to push on. Congrats to the team for the amazing effort so far and best of luck tomorrow, look forward to reading more tomorrow night.

Posted On: 13 Jun 2012 10:36 am

One of the bravest endeavours I have ever heard of. Take care Matt.

Posted On: 13 Jun 2012 10:01 am

Well what a day - it obviously could not get much worse for Matt but through all that he still managed to finish the course -truly amazing what an inspiration for everyone. Hopefully Matt is on the improve. Waiting for the next update

Posted On: 13 Jun 2012 09:31 am

What a hard day... Hoping Matt is able to push through and recovers a bit overnight. He is an inspiration to all, so motivated, courageous and strong. You're in our thoughts all the time. Keep supporting him like you are now, hopefully he will come good soon. Much love. xoxo

Posted On: 13 Jun 2012 08:47 am

Hey Matt, read the blogs, look after yourself, we could not imagine how you are feeling, but hopefully better very soon. Thinking of you all. Take care mate. Ronaye

Posted On: 13 Jun 2012 08:02 am

Hi Greg and Matt, we're keeping you in our thoughts and prayers. Your strength is like no other. Our love and best wishes for stage 5 tomorrow. Looking forward to the next update. xoxox

Posted On: 13 Jun 2012 07:58 am

Hey Matt, things will have to start improving for you real soon, can't imagine how tough you're doing it. Your courage and determination is something you should be truly proud of. Receiving lots of phone calls from people who are sending you positive thoughts and love to get well and keep pushing on. Thinking of you constantly, you are a real inspiration to many. So proud of you and hope you rest well tonight before the long stage tomorrow. Love you and missing you heaps.

Posted On: 13 Jun 2012 07:33 am

Great effort to get through that tough stage Matt, I am so inspired by your efforts. We all hope you come good in the near future. Whether you pull out now or go all the way, you are a hero. I hope you and the rest of the team stay strong. Great job to you dad for supporting matt through this race. Love you all and hope to hear from you again tomorrow.

Posted On: 13 Jun 2012 07:10 am

Well done Matt your determination is truly inspiring!! Rest well. Keep soaring to those amazing heights, we are all behind you. Be safe and be well :)

Posted On: 13 Jun 2012 07:04 am

Sounds like a very difficult situation - so sorry to hear how sick Matt is! Hope he recovers overnight and is able to continue. Good luck team B2R! You are all achieving amazing things.

Posted On: 13 Jun 2012 05:52 am

We are rooting for you all. Hope you feel well tomorrow Matt.

Posted On: 13 Jun 2012 05:32 am

Matt, what an effort just to get this far. Remeber that people struggle when fully fit to do this stuff so dont downplay what an achievement it is. Given what you showed in the Atacama Crossing, if anyone can get through this situation, you can. Keep strong buddy Dan

Posted On: 13 Jun 2012 05:25 am

Sounds like a very difficult situation for you as a dad as well as a team member Greg, We all hope Matt gets the rest he needs and can look forward to better times. Good luck.

Posted On: 13 Jun 2012 05:23 am

Thinking of you Matt and sending my prayers your way for you to get better. We are very proud of you! xo

Posted On: 13 Jun 2012 03:46 am

Inspirational stuff matt, Hope you're feeling better

Posted On: 13 Jun 2012 03:05 am

amazing effort by all, especially Matt, keep it up, your doing amazing things..

Posted On: 13 Jun 2012 01:53 am

OMG what a effort on Matts behalf, I so very much hope his situation improves, all the best to all, love the chivos

11 June 2012 05:40 am (GMT+08:00) Beijing, Chongqing, Hong Kong, Urumqi

A long day today with some difficult terrain. Matt in particular did it tough with lack if energy from being unable to eat due to his stomach problem, and also inflamed knee tendon, after effect of North Face 100. Roger also not well and lacking in energy, so today just became about getting the team to the finish, which we eventually did in around 6 hours 24, which was 68th and well outside what we are capable of fully fit. But that doesn't matter ,its a long race and we just have to do what we have to do to get to the end of each day.

I was very pround of Matt who was clearly in pain and distress but toughed it out, and has now crashed in the tent, and will hopefully be able to hold some food down and get his energy back. His knee however is quite bad, so its going to be a long week. In a stroke of luck a guy strolling past our tent for a chat kindly lent Matt his patellar tendon strap, and hopefully this might help tomorrow..

So with 170km to go its hard to tell what will happen. Its equivalent to over 12 city to surfs across difficult desert terrain with the equivalent to a slab of beer on your back (unfortunately its not beer, it s just stuff like freeze dried vegetable tikka).

Jess, Ron and I are going OK, however Ron metioned he was quite tired and was seeing stars, so has decided to have a sleep post race.

Tommorow is a bit shorter at 36km, however camp 4 is 900m higher than we are at the moment at 2,525m elevation. I didnt realise we would be running at this sort of altitude in Gobi. Anyway we just have to deal with things like this day by day and keep pushing on.

Blog again tommorow.

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Posted On: 12 Jun 2012 02:23 pm

Reminds me of a quote from a running movie made during the 1980s Greg, called "on the Edge", where the mind seeks to overcome matter: "Go out and feel the course. Burn the uphill and soar the downhills. When you burn, you say soar. And when you soar, you say burn." Keep soaring team!

Posted On: 12 Jun 2012 12:01 pm

Hi Greg, well day 2 was obviously a very tough day for all and hopefully the team has been thru the worst. It's very inspiring to read this, trust tomorrow is a better day for all of you, looking forward to the next blog.

Posted On: 12 Jun 2012 11:42 am

Greg, Super team effort, can imagine the effort required. You are a very strong and determined team. Do your work captain. The results will look afetr them selves. What a journey. Colin & Sandy

Posted On: 12 Jun 2012 10:30 am

Hi Greg, very difficult stage 2 for the team but hey, what an incredible effort by you all.You guys have managed to come this far under very different circumstances to Atacarma some of which you couldn't have anticipated. Really hope today was much better for the team, stick together

Posted On: 12 Jun 2012 10:09 am

Sounds like a tough day guys. Hope things improve for the next stage. Keep up the great work. Look forward to your next blog 🇯🇵

Posted On: 12 Jun 2012 04:07 am

Wow well done guys for getting so far- sounds extremely challenging and very difficult and now having to face the altitude as well- Baz and I will have our fingers and toes crossed for you all to make it safe and sound and in reasonable health. Lots of love Liane and Barry

Posted On: 12 Jun 2012 03:36 am

Go you good things! You guys are so tough I'm sure you'll be able to hang in there and claw your way back into better health and even better running. I'll be following you all week! Blakey

Posted On: 12 Jun 2012 03:11 am

Hi darl. This is sounding tough. So proud of u

Posted On: 12 Jun 2012 01:33 am

Hi Dad, sounds like the team is doing it a bit tougher than Atacama. Hope you can all dig deep and keep pushing on. Doesnt matter where you place, just gotta try make it to the finish. Hopefully the shorter distance on day 3 will help. We're all very proud of you and matt and the team. thinking of you all the time. Keep us updated on progress! Love Lau

10 June 2012 04:48 am (GMT+08:00) Beijing, Chongqing, Hong Kong, Urumqi

Before I blog about day 1, i wanted to mention a unique western chinese sport that was put on for us by the local village, that very few westerners have ever witnessed. It works like this.
2 sides, 3 horsemen a side (dressed in suits), one   Horseman referee
Object of the game: Get a dead goats carcass into   a goal on the ground formed by a circle of rocks. The side who does this   wins!

Imagine a game of rubgy leauge except on horseback, with a dead goat instrad of a ball. The six horses charge  into a "scrum" and you have 6 people grabbing the legs tail or head of the goat trying to secure it, eventually one wins and charges off on horseback, dead goat in hand towards the goal, with 5 other horses in hot pursuit. The goat can be passed between teammates,... have you ever seen anyone throw a "dummy pass" with a dead goat... we have!. Eventualluy the 5 horses catch the goat carrier and a new scrum ensues, with vigorous competition for the goat carcass. Eventaully one wins again, heads for the goal and   throws the limp carcass into the rock pile, and the locals all cheer and settle their bets. This goes on for ages, I think until the goat is finally destroyed (but they are tough little buggers).. Is that a crazy sport or what!. As  a bonus James has it all on film.. Kind if puts a new spin on the term Goat F%$@.

 

Anyway, day 1 of the dace. Nice cool weather relatively easy course, much of it on tracks, which was redcued to 33km due to a canyon being flooded by recent rains in the nearby mountains. However it was a tough day for Tream Born to Run. Roger and Matt must have had a dose of local food that wasnt too good and were suffering. I was running comfortably and just before the first 10k checkpoint found I was some way in front of the team, and Rog had needed go behind a rock pile 4 times. Matt was feeling nauseated and stopped to try and throw up but couldnt. We stuck together as a team, and generally let Rog and Matt determine the pace they were comfortable with. As it turned out the course reduction was a blessing, as Rog and Matt were finding the going tough with their problems.

Anyway I told the guys not to stress and the medals are handed out on day 7, not day 1. Despite the problesm we still did pretty well finishing in around 4.15, and 31st place. We are hopefull of improving on this placing as the event unfolds, but time will tell and anything can happen in an event like this,first  and of course the main goal of the Team is to finish.

I am feeling good and strong, no problems and Jess just continues through the desert on her laughing way, and making sure the team is OK.

 

I think the highlight of the day was the last kilometre to the finish line through the village, and our team were escorted in by around 15 kids aged from 3 to around 8, some on bikes and most running, to cross the line with us, an awesome and unique experience, again captured on film courtesy of James.

 

I have not had access to any blog replies, and willl see these later., but thanks for any you have sent.

 

Love to all, and hopefully the team will be feeling better in the morning to have a good crack at day 2..

 

Cheers

 

PS Lots of poms here and some indians as well, and we hope to hold the first tri-nations cricket tournament on the Chinese continent on the rest day.We have bats and balls, and are good to go.

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Posted On: 11 Jun 2012 07:19 am

Hey Dad. Sounds like it's all going pretty well - must be pretty awesome seeing all these things that not many westeners will ever experience. Hope Matt and Rogers gastro improves, and that the next few days go well. Keep blogging! Thinking of you all! Love Lau

Posted On: 11 Jun 2012 06:46 am

Hi darl. Great time despite problems. Finish sounds like it was very special. Love u heaps

Posted On: 11 Jun 2012 05:05 am

Hey Greg, great to read your blogs

09 June 2012 04:31 am (GMT+08:00) Beijing, Chongqing, Hong Kong, Urumqi

Hi All

Just hit camp one after an interesting and scenic 2 1/2 hour bus trip. Greeted by a huge crowd of local village people (no not "those" Village people). LOts of singing and clapping, music and men on horses. Quite an amazing atmosphere out in the desert. Bigger tents this time which is good . We are sharing with our Japanese friend friom Atacama Hiro, an American Aaron a young Korean lady Anna, and another Korean and Japanese.

We are all fit and raring to go. Tomoorow is a full 42km marathon distance which should be a good warm up for the week.

My pack is a little lighter than Atacama weighing in at just over 11kg excluding water, but hopefully after a hearty dinner tonight and brekky in the morning I will have more weight in the tummy and less on the back.

Its around 6pm and weather is actually pleasant, probably around 23/24 with a nice breeze. It doesnt get dark until after 10.30, and light again at 7am.

We had a great 2 days in Kasgar the furthest west city in China which is an interesting mix of chinese and middle eastern cultures, with crazy traffic and activity, a real eye opener. No tourists here, they wont let them in, and I think we were the only westerners on the streets, and it was lots of fun having kids coming up to us in the streets and practicing their english.... ie "hello".

James has done some great filming even before the race starts.

Anyhow will blog again after day 1, with hopefully positive reports. Thanks all for your love and support.

Let the fun and games begin again.

 

" Not all success is to be found at the finish line. Much success lies at the start line, by doing what needs to be done to earn the right to put your feet on the starting line line. Much more sucess lies throughout the journey itself, and the success to be found at the finish line is merely the icing on the cake"

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Posted On: 13 Jun 2012 11:40 pm

Hi Greg, sounds like you guys are doing it very tough!! hang in there mate - you should be very proud of your efforts - truly inspirational stuff. looking forward to catching up when you get back In case you havent heard - the blues beat the maroons 16-12 in a nail bighter last night... Keep safe mate - chat soon

Posted On: 11 Jun 2012 02:27 pm

HI Greg and Matt and team born to run,can\'t believe your running again,\"China\" already,keep safe and well we are all thinking of you....

Posted On: 11 Jun 2012 02:24 pm

HI Greg and Matt and team born to run,can't believe your running again,"China" already,keep safe and well we are all thinking of you....

Posted On: 11 Jun 2012 10:53 am

Hey Greg & Matt. Enjoying following your progress, sounds like you and your team are going strong. To Matt, I hope you are feeling better over the next stage. Good luck to you all and we are extremely proud of you 🏃

Posted On: 10 Jun 2012 09:28 am

Hey Dad. Good to hear from you. Hope you have a great race and have done everything in your power to prepare. I am thinking of you and looking forward to hearing from you again. Love you

Posted On: 10 Jun 2012 07:58 am

Hi Greg, Matt and tem born to run, all the very best to you all, we are thinking of you, have fun and be safe. The Brennan's

Posted On: 10 Jun 2012 05:08 am

Interesting reading ... all the very best to you, Mat & team. The Chivos.

Posted On: 10 Jun 2012 04:45 am

Hi darl. Bringing back memories. Hope stage1 goes well for you